Were spartans gay lovers
If you act not believe me, read some books or just google or go on wikipedia.
You accomplish not see this on 300 production but when a young spartan reached the age o "adult" (about 14, when first hair grew) they were sent to invest some time with a "teacher" who taught him many things....and usually he asked his "prize" for that. You were not obliged, but almost everyone did it.
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Re: Spartan pederasty? - Kineas - 07-13-2008
I wouldn't disallow that homosexuality existed in Sparta or Athens or anywhere else, but it is worth noting that, for instance, if homosexuality were the "norm" that some modern historians make it (wish it?) then Aristophanes's Lysistrata (Λυσιστράτη) (411 BC) would not have been funny.
Lysistrata is a comedy in which the women of Athens and Sparta refuse to own sex with their husbands until they make peace. The play was written in the darkest days of the 30 Year's War and if Greek men, or even men of the Hoplite Class in either state had been "mostly" or even "some" gay, the point of the play would vanish--it wouldn't hold been funny then.
I'd further contend that Plutarch and Polybius are at the root of a great many tales of pederasty and the fancy . Look--let's face it, any system that allows the mature (men or women) special powers and privileges over the immature (men or women) usually results in sexual overuse. But... it seems to me that it suited later, mostly Roman, commentators to push the effeminacy of Greece. Most hoplites were farmers and little husbandmen or craftsmen who lived very plain, almost au
Lovers and Soldiers
If by some contrivance a city, or an army, of lovers and their adolescent loves could come into entity . . . then, fighting alongside one another, such men, though few in number, could defeat practically all humankind. For a man in love would rather have anyone other than his lover see him exit his place in the line or toss away his weapons, and often would rather depart on behalf of the one he loves.
Plato wrote the Symposium probably around 380 BCE. At that time, many Greek states were subjected to the hegemony of the Spartans, who were enjoying a period of rule after defeating the Athenians in 404 in the devastating Peloponnesian War. But one of these states, Thebes, stood up to the military might of Sparta. In doing so, the Thebans realized Phaedrus’s vision: They created an elite corps of three hundred soldiers, known as the Sacred Band of Thebes, comprising 150 pairs of male lovers who fought side-by-side in the name of freedom.
Given the uncertainty of the exact date of writing, Plato might have been referring explicitly to the Revered Band, which was formed in 379 BCE. A Spartan violence had been occupying the citadel of Thebes, crushing opposition
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